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Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 10:06:36 AM1/14/23
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Hello,
Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
Service" without any active lines? Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
(upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards). I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
active lines to work. :(
Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
bar(s) in this rural area.
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
Service" without any active lines? Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
(upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards). I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
active lines to work. :(
Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
bar(s) in this rural area.
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
--
"A new command I give you: <3 1 another. As I have <3ed U, so U must <3 1 another." --John 13:34. Fri., da 13, was slammy & unlucky with the colony & Jason Voorhee (never saw his flicks). :P Will da 3rd repaired old nest still leak this long weekend? 2 be continued...
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nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 10:31:44 AM1/14/23
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In article <G2ydna4pWaxrWV_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
> Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
without 3g/cdma, the 4s thinks it's in a dead zone, thus no service.
this is not unique to iphones either.
the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
should still be able to make an emergency call (assuming you're in an
area with coverage).
> I tried to call
> *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
shut down.
> iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
> active lines to work. :(
because the ipad air has lte, which still exists.
> Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
> Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
> bar(s) in this rural area.
the iphone 11 has lte, and the 12 and later also have 5g, so you should
be able to call 911 without an active cellular plan, assuming you're
not in the middle of nowhere with no service whatsoever. it will show
sos, because that's all it can do.
the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> Service" without any active lines?
yes for 4s, no for ipohne 6.
> Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> Service" without any active lines?
> Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
this is not unique to iphones either.
the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
should still be able to make an emergency call (assuming you're in an
area with coverage).
> I tried to call
> *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
shut down.
> iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
> active lines to work. :(
> Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
> Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
> bar(s) in this rural area.
be able to call 911 without an active cellular plan, assuming you're
not in the middle of nowhere with no service whatsoever. it will show
sos, because that's all it can do.
the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 10:38:23 AM1/14/23
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In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <G2ydna4pWaxrWV_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> > Service" without any active lines?
> yes for 4s, no for ipohne 6.
> > Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> > 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> > two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> > (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
> without 3g/cdma, the 4s thinks it's in a dead zone, thus no service.
> this is not unique to iphones either.
> the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
> should still be able to make an emergency call (assuming you're in an
> area with coverage).
> > I tried to call
> > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
> because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> shut down.
OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
> In article <G2ydna4pWaxrWV_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> > Service" without any active lines?
> yes for 4s, no for ipohne 6.
> > Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> > 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> > two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> > (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
> without 3g/cdma, the 4s thinks it's in a dead zone, thus no service.
> this is not unique to iphones either.
> the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
> should still be able to make an emergency call (assuming you're in an
> area with coverage).
> > I tried to call
> > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
> because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> shut down.
(just no active lines)? :(
> > iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
> > active lines to work. :(
> because the ipad air has lte, which still exists.
cellular bars when inactive unlike before the shut down?
> > Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
> > Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
> > bar(s) in this rural area.
> the iphone 11 has lte, and the 12 and later also have 5g, so you should
> be able to call 911 without an active cellular plan, assuming you're
> not in the middle of nowhere with no service whatsoever. it will show
> sos, because that's all it can do.
lot. I wished 6 + used to be able to show 1-2 bars before the shut down.
Now, it's just "No Service" after Searching.
> the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
> yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 10:55:24 AM1/14/23
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In article <naydnT9PCPn3UV_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
signal, without an active cellular service plan.
are they both verizon, with lte sims? i can think of a possible issue
with sprint, but not verizon.
>
> > the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
> > yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
>
> Yeah. I'll wait until I need a new iPhone. Doesn't that require paying
> subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
it's free for 2 years. there hasn't been an announcement as to the cost
after that, or if it will continue to be free, which is also possible.
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
> > > I tried to call
> > > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
>
> > because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> > shut down.
>
> OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
> (just no active lines)? :(
dunno. the 6 should be able to make an emergency call if there's a
>
> > > I tried to call
> > > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
>
> > because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> > shut down.
>
> OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
> (just no active lines)? :(
signal, without an active cellular service plan.
are they both verizon, with lte sims? i can think of a possible issue
with sprint, but not verizon.
>
> > the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
> > yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
>
> Yeah. I'll wait until I need a new iPhone. Doesn't that require paying
> subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
after that, or if it will continue to be free, which is also possible.
sms
Jan 14, 2023, 11:22:31 AM1/14/23
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On 1/14/2023 7:06 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> Service" without any active lines? Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards). I tried to call
> *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
>
> iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
> active lines to work. :(
>
> Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
> Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
> bar(s) in this rural area.
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
> Hello,
>
> Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No
> Service" without any active lines? Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
> 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
> two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore
> (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards). I tried to call
> *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
>
> iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
> active lines to work. :(
>
> Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
> Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
> bar(s) in this rural area.
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
I would think that 911 would still work on the 6+ as well.
Did T-Mobile actually shut down 2G on January 1, 2023 as they said they
would? I have no non-LTE phones to try it on.
I bought some of the free service T-Mobile/FreedomPop SIM cards from
Walmart prior to them being discontinued so I could keep some older
phones active, including the 6s Plus.
sms
Jan 14, 2023, 11:23:43 AM1/14/23
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On 1/14/2023 8:22 AM, sms wrote:
Oops, typo, should be:
> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus shows "No Service" and
Oops, typo, should be:
> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus shows "No Service" and
Andy Burnelli
Jan 14, 2023, 11:35:25 AM1/14/23
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nospam wrote:
> this is not unique to iphones either.
Given the iPhone hardware isn't better than Android hardware, it's rare for
> this is not unique to iphones either.
you to admit that fact in your zealous object of religious idolatry.
> the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
> should still be able to make an emergency call
false shilling of your religious zealotry to the point of utter bigotry.
To wit:
a. iPhone4s only has 3g/cdma radios, so it can't pick up current broadcasts
b. iPhone 6 has 4g/lte radios so with coverage, it should connect to 911
Question to Ant:
Q: *As a realistic test, can you make a _611_ call from the iPhone 6?*
Note: The reason I suggest 611 tests is that obviates the need to call 911.
> (assuming you're in an area with coverage).
<https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg> cell signal strength graph
Had it been Android, Ant could _graphically_ debug cellular signal side by
side for each iPHone to see EXACTLY what the cellular frequencies are.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Gtywwn8f/signal01.jpg> cell signal strength graph
For what reason Apple assumes technical information is too complicated for
its (admittedly) loyal customers to have, is beyond my understanding.
<https://i.postimg.cc/CKFhMZtS/signal03.jpg> celltower realtime location
--
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Andy Burnelli
Jan 14, 2023, 12:00:04 PM1/14/23
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Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Q: *As a realistic test, can you make a _611_ call from the iPhone 6?*
> Note: The reason I suggest 611 tests is that obviates the need to call 911.
I just saw Steve's post that 611 didn't work for him when 911 did work.
> Q: *As a realistic test, can you make a _611_ call from the iPhone 6?*
> Note: The reason I suggest 611 tests is that obviates the need to call 911.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/2Kpp7L7F8XM/m/_qnglbTJAgAJ>
If that's the case, then it's even sadder that iOS is so crippled that it
can't do something as basic as graph the wifi signal strength like this.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=make.more.r2d2.cellular_z>
The problem then is the laughably crippled iPhone apps lack even the most
basic of troubleshooting information, such as tower, strength & frequency.
<https://i.postimg.cc/q7JjJ77g/signal04.jpg> Wifi & cellular debugging
Sadly, unfortunately for the OP, the iPhone is, in a word, crippled.
Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 12:11:12 PM1/14/23
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In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <naydnT9PCPn3UV_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >
> > > > I tried to call
> > > > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > > > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
> >
> > > because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> > > shut down.
> >
> > OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
> > (just no active lines)? :(
> dunno. the 6 should be able to make an emergency call if there's a
> signal, without an active cellular service plan.
> are they both verizon, with lte sims? i can think of a possible issue
> with sprint, but not verizon.
Yup, the same ones before migrating to the newer iPhones.
> <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >
> > > > I tried to call
> > > > *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
> > > > rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
> >
> > > because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
> > > shut down.
> >
> > OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
> > (just no active lines)? :(
> dunno. the 6 should be able to make an emergency call if there's a
> signal, without an active cellular service plan.
> are they both verizon, with lte sims? i can think of a possible issue
> with sprint, but not verizon.
> > > the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
> > > yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
> >
> > Yeah. I'll wait until I need a new iPhone. Doesn't that require paying
> > subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
> it's free for 2 years. there hasn't been an announcement as to the cost
> after that, or if it will continue to be free, which is also possible.
Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 12:15:05 PM1/14/23
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Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
sms
Jan 14, 2023, 12:36:48 PM1/14/23
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On 1/14/2023 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
> Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
> Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
"From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 1:18:51 PM1/14/23
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In alt.cellular.verizon sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
--
"A new command I give you: <3 1 another. As I have <3ed U, so U must <3 1 another." --John 13:34. Fri., da 13, was slammy & unlucky with the colony & Jason Voorhee (never saw his flicks). :P Will da 3rd repaired old nest still leak this long weekend's rain? 2 be continued...
nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 1:47:42 PM1/14/23
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In article <tpuks6$21ar3$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
you actually called 911 to test it?
>
> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 1:47:43 PM1/14/23
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In article <6uqcnXD0P6Kbb1_-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
> > Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
> > purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
> > TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
> > Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
>
> > "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
> > American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
> > your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
> > you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
>
> Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
you don't, and hasn't been a thing for a long time.
> In alt.cellular.verizon sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
> > Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
> > purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
> > TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
> > Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
>
> > "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
> > American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
> > your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
> > you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
>
> Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
sms
Jan 14, 2023, 2:15:00 PM1/14/23
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On 1/14/2023 10:18 AM, Ant wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/14/2023 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
>
>> I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
>> Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
>> purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
>> TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
>> Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
>
>> "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
>> American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
>> your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
>> you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
>
> Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
Pretty sure that it's no longer available with the demise of CDMA.
> In alt.cellular.verizon sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/14/2023 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
>
>> I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
>> Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
>> purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
>> TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
>> Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
>
>> "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
>> American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
>> your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
>> you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
>
> Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
The FCC used to mandate "Manual Roaming Service" for outgoing calls
where you just paid per call. It worked on unregistered phones.
See <https://americanroaming.com/>.
nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 3:08:45 PM1/14/23
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In article <tpuuvj$22mbj$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
> >> Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
> >> purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
> >> TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
> >> Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
> >
> >> "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
> >> American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
> >> your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
> >> you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
> >
> > Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
>
> Pretty sure that it's no longer available with the demise of CDMA.
long before that.
> >> I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
> >> Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
> >> purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
> >> TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
> >> Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
> >
> >> "From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
> >> American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
> >> your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
> >> you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
> >
> > Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
>
> Pretty sure that it's no longer available with the demise of CDMA.
Ant
Jan 14, 2023, 6:59:05 PM1/14/23
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In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
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"A new command I give you: <3 1 another. As I have <3ed U, so U must <3 1 another." --John 13:34. Fri., da 13, was slammy & unlucky with the colony & Jason Voorhee (never saw his flicks). 3rd repaired old nest's roof is already leaking again after it. :(
sms
Jan 14, 2023, 7:29:36 PM1/14/23
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On 1/14/2023 3:58 PM, Ant wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <tpuks6$21ar3$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
>> <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
>>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
>
>> you actually called 911 to test it?
>
> And don't you get penalized for false calls?
If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
> In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <tpuks6$21ar3$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
>> <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
>>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
>
>> you actually called 911 to test it?
>
> And don't you get penalized for false calls?
But it's also okay to call it and tell them that you were seeing if your
phone was working.
On landlines you can test 911 by calling 933 but not on mobile phones. I
pay $18 per year for 911 service on my Google Voice/Polycom Obi device.
nospam
Jan 14, 2023, 9:23:07 PM1/14/23
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In article <tpvhdd$24s8u$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> But it's also okay to call it and tell them that you were seeing if your
> phone was working.
nope. it's not ok, unless you schedule it ahead of time.
what you are suggesting is not only illegal, but also stupid.
<https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/>
How do I place a "test" call to make sure 911 works for me?
Test calls confirm that your local 911 service can receive your 911
call and has the correct location information. Test calls can be
scheduled by contacting your local 911 call center via its
non-emergency phone number. To contact the local 911 center
responsible for answering calls from your location, visit the
National Association of State 911 Administrators site and select the
state where you live to find your 911 administrator. The person
responsible for operating the state.
> On landlines you can test 911 by calling 933 but not on mobile phones. I
> pay $18 per year for 911 service on my Google Voice/Polycom Obi device.
then you're overpaying, by a *lot*.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >>> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
> >>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
> >
> >> you actually called 911 to test it?
> >
> > And don't you get penalized for false calls?
>
> If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
no, actually it isn't fine.
> >>> With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
> >>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
> >
> >> you actually called 911 to test it?
> >
> > And don't you get penalized for false calls?
>
> If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
> But it's also okay to call it and tell them that you were seeing if your
> phone was working.
what you are suggesting is not only illegal, but also stupid.
<https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/>
How do I place a "test" call to make sure 911 works for me?
Test calls confirm that your local 911 service can receive your 911
call and has the correct location information. Test calls can be
scheduled by contacting your local 911 call center via its
non-emergency phone number. To contact the local 911 center
responsible for answering calls from your location, visit the
National Association of State 911 Administrators site and select the
state where you live to find your 911 administrator. The person
responsible for operating the state.
> On landlines you can test 911 by calling 933 but not on mobile phones. I
> pay $18 per year for 911 service on my Google Voice/Polycom Obi device.
Andy Burnelli
Jan 15, 2023, 1:46:12 PM1/15/23
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nospam wrote:
>> If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
>
> no, actually it isn't fine.
I have to admit nospam is correct on this (ask me how I know this).
>> If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
>
> no, actually it isn't fine.
Do NOT do what Steve suggests as the police will not only come to your
house under some circumstances, but they'll come armed and ready.
Ask me how I know this.
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